Occanum
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On 12/25/2022 at 7:29 AM, Darkstar said:
but I think I will go with the Boss amp set up as the effect does seem to be worth the extra cost.
If you ultimately decide to go with a voice modulator, I'd suggest looking into the Zoom Multistomp as well. The Zoom is cheaper with more features than the Boss-VE5. But the configuration learning curve is steep and its bulky, making it harder to hide.
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On 12/25/2022 at 7:29 AM, Darkstar said:
The most popular sound glove option is The MiCom Sound Rig. You can't really sell copyrighted sound files without permission so the MiCom owner recorded voice lines then added Kylo's sound effects. End result outperforms what the actors at Galaxy's Edge use. With some practice you can simulate conversations.
Price point is around $300. If this will be your main voice setup, it's totally worth it. They sell in runs, so you'll have to get on a waiting list.
Link to Kylo glove layout https://www.dropbox.com/s/oisnqxgjlabrenx/Kylo%202.0.pdf?dl=0
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On 12/25/2022 at 7:29 AM, Darkstar said:
This was the system I was looking at
Thanks for the link. Posted a few vids at bottom for reference. Voice samples for this rig were pulled from Battlefront 2 (vid below as well) so he's had to make some creative choices with limited options. $100 USD is not a bad price point if the build quality is good. I don't have any experience with this vendor or product. Maybe someone here or the The Knights of Ren Facebook group has.
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4 minutes ago, Danny Darko said:
Your chest speaker pack is wonderful too. Is that custom?
Just stumbled across it. Fits one speaker horizontally.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B094DTHNHZ?th=1
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Boss VE-5 rig try on w/ Surcoat and Hood. TBH my belly is more noticeable.
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Boss VE-5 rig try on w/o Surcoat and Hood
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Boss VE-5 dual speaker sound test v1 settings. Movie audio first, followed by my voice.
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You referring to the blue box with three buttons and volume control? If so, that's based off a Velleman circuit. Could you link the product page and/or a demo? Thanks.
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We have a number of options that vary in complexity and cost. These are the most popular options:
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Phone App
- Haven't used or tested.
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Velleman Voice Changer
- $100+ easy to set up and hide, not many configuration options
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Zoom MS-50G MultiStomp
- $90+ great features for price point; complex to learn and set up; best customization options; medium foot print
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Boss VE-5 Vocal Performer
- $200+ can only find used, relatively easy to learn and dial in; good customization options; low profile, flat
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MiCom Sound Rig
- $300+ (new), push button for recorded voice lines; slight learning curve for more advanced features; easy to hide; bit of work to rig
The only thing you'll have ready and dialed in for this weekend is a Phone App with speaker and mic purchased from Amazon or retail. I'd suggest going silent mode unless you have money and time to burn.
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7 minutes ago, doctorJ said:
Occanum,
Stupid question, nice chest rig, but you're wearing the mesh in front? And for the TFA do you need 2 speakers?
Yes, mesh in front. I'm assuming 2 for TFA due to surcoat and hood layers. Haven't tested yet. Will post my results in a few weeks.
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Rigging is incredibly simple compared to Zoom.
2 speakers for TFA
1 speaker for SKB
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v1 settings from Pittforcefive vid. I'm really happy with initial testing.
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I'm trying a variety of voice options with my TFA / SKB WIP. This post will cover my Boss VE-5 set up.
Components
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Boss VE-5 Vocal Performer
- Ordered 11/07/22 - Received 11/14/22
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Philips BT3900 Speaker
- Ordered 10/28/21 - Received 11/09/21
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3.5mm Male to 2 Male Headphone Stereo Y Splitter
- Ordered 11/09/22 - Received 11/10/22
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Shure WH20QTR Headset Microphone 3-Pin Male XLR
- Ordered 11/14/22 - Received 11/16/22
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MVRK Chest Pack
- Ordered 1/10/22 - Received 1/11/22
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EBL AA Rechargeable Batteries (8 Pack)
- Ordered 10/14/23 - Received 10/15/23
Current Settings v1
Dynamics ON Depth 100 Enhance 2 Pitch Correct ON Type Soft Scale Maj(Min) Key D Gender -1 Octave 0 Tone/SGX ON Type Distortion Drive 100 Tone +30 Double/Harmony ON Type -1 Octave HrmLevel 65 Gender -1 Key D Direct Level 100 Delay OFF Reverb OFF -
Boss VE-5 Vocal Performer
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Found an online Patch Editor. Anyone used this before? https://g200kg.github.io/zoom-ms-utility/
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Current settings (v1) based off the first iteration in this post
Comp 4 8 78 Fast Booster 28 80 150 Pitch Shift -3 6 100 7 150 GraphicEQ 5 5 5 3 3 5 130 ZNR 19 EfxIn 100 Would love to simply copy/paste another person settings but multiple factors make each set up unique. In order to tweak v1, I have to learn what the Zoom effect types and parameters did. Found the manual https://zoomcorp.com/media/documents/E_MS-50G_FX-list_v3.pdf
Compression is used in music to reduce the dynamic range of signals with loud and quiet elements so that both can be heard clearly.
Gain is how loud an input signal is before it enters the amplifier. The higher the gain, the louder the signal. For example, if a microphone has low sensitivity, you will need to turn up the gain so that the amplifier can make the sound louder.
Pitch refers to the frequency of the note. Changing pitch will make notes sound higher or lower.
An equalizer will adjust audio output so that certain frequencies are emphasized over others
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Of all the testing I did this Halloween, my voice changer rig was the least successful. Purchased the MVRK Chest Pack to securely hold one or two speakers beneath the surcoat in front, and MiCom or Zoom in the back pouch. MiCom fits perfectly but the Zoom was a precarious fit.
Chest Pack as is
To securely hold the Zoom I got the VIIDOO Tactical Molle Pouch. Which does the trick but only when mounted towards my back.
I was apprehensive about how much the condenser protruded upwards. Hindsight, should have reversed the Zoom's vertical direction. But that's not what caused it to fail; Surcoat did a great job of keeping that mess securely in place. VIIDOO Pouch is a snug fit resulting in button mash. To remedy that I asked a friend to print me a cover https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4925381
Will update after my next round of testing.
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4 hours ago, Danny Darko said:
How’s the sensitivity? The cheap-o one I have now is just a touch too sensitive for my liking. Thanks man. I appreciate it.
It can pickup my breathing at times. I attribute this to two things. I'm not yet comfortable with being uncomfortable in the costume. That can cause my breathing to be erratic at times. Also, my helmet is cramped, causing the mic to rest relatively close to my mouth. Some adjusting usually resolves the problem.
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1 hour ago, Danny Darko said:
How do you like the Shure WH20 QTR? It’s been on my B&H list for months. The reviews seem reassuring.
Really pleased. Speaker is only a few inches away from the mic and no feedback or interference. Voice is crystal clear before Zoom Kylo's it all up.
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Thanks to @JSmailsfor v1 input.
v2 updates:
- Smaller and more secure adapter coming from condenser
- Replaced Y Splitter out with single 1/4 to 3.5 cable
- Reduced output cable size from 6ft. to 3ft.
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Head gear on Shure microphone would not fit comfortably in my helmet. Decided to drill out the metal gromet that connects boom to head gear.
Then added velcro to secure boom and lose wire.
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58 minutes ago, CrazyCalgary said:
I know this sounds dumb. But what does the Volbox do to add to this?
I've ordered a bunch of things, but no point in trying to figure out how to set all this up until it gets here.
Easy adjustment of volume while trooping.@JSmailscurious how and where you mount the VolBox. Do you have any pix to share? Thanks!
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@JSmailsDid you heat shrink connectors on the left (output) side?
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8 hours ago, JSmails said:
Ideally, one will eliminate as many points of failure as possible.
That was my exact thought after looking it all over. Thanks for sharing your setup.
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Set up before rigging into costume.
Imperial Light and Magic voice and sound
in Voice and Sound Systems
Posted · Edited by Occanum
What I learned from using all three options: MiCom, Zoom and Boss is, it's really your preference.
For me, MiCom takes away some uniqueness of interaction. However your voice is consistently on point and frees you to focus on the physical aspects of being in character. Ask anyone who's gone to Galaxy's Edge, interactions with Kylo are special even if not unique.
I'm down with the Boss right now, even though Zoom has better features. It fits my harness easier and requires less work to protect while out. But I'm still working on improving my Zoom set up for future use.